Meet the Women at NAOBC – Carolyn Kile

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Carolyn Kile.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: My name is Carolyn Kile. First and foremost, I am a follower of my Lord and Savior, Jesus. I am also the wife of Kent and Mom of four girls – Macy(20), Molly(17), Moriah(10) and Mia(8). Kent and I will be married for 25 years this July. I went to Georgetown College and earned a teaching degree. I spent 7 years in the classroom before “retiring” when Macy was born. During the first years of her life, I helped Kent run our small business, KileSIGNS. Then the Lord led us to homeschool. So that has been my full-time job since my oldest started Kindergarten – 16 years ago.

I was born in Lansing, MI – where my Mom and Dad went to college (Michigan State). But Kentucky has been my home since I was 4 years old.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: Our family has been at NAOBC for just over a year now. And what a joy that has been for us! Our NAOBC family has welcomed us in and loved us. One of the things that we love so much about NAOBC is how friendly it is! It is not easy finding a place for a college, high school and two elementary school girls. We are so blessed that we found that in NAOBC.

Kent and I are in the IC5 BFG. And we are currently serving in the children’s ministry with the 4-5th grade kids during the 12:00 hour.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: I learned to sew at the age of 36. When Macy turned seven, she asked for a sewing machine and sewing lessons from my mother -in- law. So, I learned right along with her. Although, I still have to go to Macy for lots of sewing advice.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: Although there have been a handful of women that have had an impact on my life, I would have to say two stand out in my mind. They would have to be my two big girls- Macy and Molly. Obviously, I am their Mom. But over the years, we have spent so much time together that I have watched them grow into beautiful ladies that genuinely love the Lord. If I could pick anyone to spend my time with, other than Kent, it would be the two of them. I have a Godly jealousy of them. They are years beyond where I was at their age. If I need encouragement, an ear to listen or advice – nobody knows me better than these two. Two verses that come to mind: Proverbs 27:17 “As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.” And 1 Timothy 4:12 “Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith, and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe.” God knew I would need these two. They were the ones that actually started praying years before Kent and I did regarding adoption. Which led to our two younger girls joining our family.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: The past year has taught me how much I value family time. When COVID hit a year ago, our family was going many different directions…. And the country shutting down, allowed our family to spend a lot of time together. (With Macy getting married in June and Molly graduating this May- things will be changing in our house quite a bit this next year.) It has helped us re-prioritize things that are most important to us. It has also helped me learn to be thankful for the small things. This year, during my quiet time, I am writing three things from the previous day that I was thankful for in my prayer notebook. I am learning to praise the Lord in the big and little things.

You can follow Carolyn on Facebook (Carolyn Mae) and Instagram @carolynkile1996

Meet the Women at NAOBC – Heather Kari

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Heather Kari.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: My name is Heather Kari. I’m marred to my wonderful husband David who I met at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. We both came (separately) to study at Southern in 2016 and met in a class. We got married in 2017. In 2020 we had our baby. I’m a stay-at-home wife and mom.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: I joined NAOBC in the Fall of 2016. My husband and I served together in the Wednesday night children’s ministry up until March 2020 when the church had to pause Wednesday night activities. We loved working with the 3-5th graders!
We are members of the YC7 BFG. With young couples, helping usually means loading a moving truck or taking couples a meal when they have a baby. I also enjoy taking a turn teaching a Bible study and just hanging out with the sweet ladies in our BFG.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: I’ve been to Zambia and India.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: Different women have been impactful at different stages in my life, but I’d have to say my Mom, because she’s been there for every stage. She’s so godly and so humble. She serves others, is so generous, and she has so much wisdom from life experience.

I can think of many other women who have mentored me, prayed for me, challenged me, and have become like family. Some of those ladies were there only for a specific season of my life, and some are still good friends. I’m so thankful for how God has placed the right person in my life at the right time.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: I’ll start with a couple of verses.
“The Lord is at hand; do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:5-6 ‭ESV‬‬
“Trust in him at all times, O people; pour out your heart before him; God is a refuge for us. Selah”‭‭Psalm‬ ‭62:8‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I’ve been learning that

  1. God is near, and that’s why I don’t have to be worried
  2. And that God wants me to trust Him by telling Him my requests.

You can follow Heather on Facebook and Instagram @herpictures8

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Lisa Pickard

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Lisa Pickard.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: I am a Louisville native and love the state of Kentucky. I am married to my high school sweetheart and the love of my life, Aaron Pickard. We have two children: Liam (9) and Piper (7). They are full of fun and keep me on my toes! I enjoy singing, crafting, taking naps, snow skiing, and spending time with my family and friends. My most favorite hobby is being a teacher (and all that goes with it)!! It sounds crazy but it’s true. I enjoy being a 3rd Grade teacher at Audubon Traditional Elementary School. I have known that I wanted to be a teacher since the age of 6. For me, teaching is my mission field. I feel called to be there.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: We started visiting NAOBC in the winter of 2014 and immediately we felt connected. My husband and I are involved in Intermediate Couples 1. I truly enjoy the friendships I have made with other women in IC1, the encouragement I receive from studying God’s Word together, and the accountability I receive from other women in our class. I have served in Preschool Ministry, Children’s Ministry, Singles Ministry, and VBS.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: I was in Male High School’s Show Choir all four years. We traveled to St. Louis, New York City (twice), and Myrtle Beach for competitions. We sang and performed many Broadway Musical numbers.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: My grandma (Eve Colyer) is the woman that has made the most impact on my life thus far. She has gone on to be with the Lord. She was very involved in my life and I spent a lot of time with her growing up. She loved Jesus and was very involved in church and with her Sunday school class. She was very supportive of me, was a great listener, gave me solid biblical advice, and taught me many lessons about life. I love how invested she was with her grandchildren. She loved to sing with me, listen to me play piano, and she even taught me how to drive and water ski. When I was young, if I was given the choice of spending the night with a friend or with grandma, I always chose grandma!!

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: I am a work in progress! The Lord has taught me more about fear and trust in the last year. COVID has brought many changes to my life. Changes that I was not prepared for. Being the Type-A personality that I am, change is difficult for me. All of the changes invoked a sense of fear in me like I’ve never had before. I felt worried all of the time. I was worried about being high-risk with my Diabetes, about my husband being high-risk with his Crohn’s Disease, about my son being high-risk with his asthma, and about all of the changes I was facing as a teacher who would be teaching completely virtually (something I have never done before). The worry would turn to panic after the sun went down. I was allowing the fear to consume me. It was keeping me up at night and taking my focus off of what was important. I worked hard to complete devotions on my Bible app that reminded me of God’s promises. I found encouragement in the accountability of a close friend that did the devotions with me. I talked with my husband about my feelings and listened to him speak truth into my situations. I spent a lot of time praying when I felt the fear and worry creeping in. I focused on His promises:
God promises to never leave me (Deuteronomy 31:8).
He tells me not to worry because He is bigger than anything I face (Matthew 6:25-27, 1 Peter 5:7, Philippians 4:6, Proverbs 12:25).
He is my keeper (Psalm 121).
He will pull me through (Philippians 4:19).
He is my peace (John 16:33).
He knows me (Psalm 139).
Instead of putting my energy into worrying about things that may or may not happen, I focused on Him and His promises to me. I felt peace in those moments of worry. I was able to rest in Him. I am thankful for His faithfulness.

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Martha Sirles


On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Martha Sirles.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: I grew up in a family of seven children. We all were involved in Sunday School (the former BFG) and other organizations at NAOBC and this is where I met and married Urb. We have been married 64 years and had two wonderful sons, Wes and Brian, who also grew up at NAOBC. God called both sons into ministry. Wes is one of the pastors at Grace Community Church in Georgetown, Ky. Brian was minister of music in four churches before God called him home. Both sons had two sons each. Urb and I are great grandparents of five.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: At age nine, I became a Christian and was baptized in a church in Indiana. When I was 10 years old our family moved to Louisville near NAOBC (the original location) and I moved my membership. I was very active in Girls Auxiliary (under Women’s Missionary Union), then was active in WMU in Round Table and missions. After Urb and I married, we worked with youth then College and Career for 30+ years. I went on youth mission tours and choir tours and on these tours was cooking (with the help of other ladies) three meals a day. In 1968, Urb took a job in Lexington and then we moved back to Louisville in 1972. However we were home often and in summers I came back to work in VBS at NAOBC. Ninth & O has always been and always will be where we want to be and be involved!

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: I have enjoyed doing activities such as Hot Air Ballooning, a Helicopter ride in a police helicopter and once when on vacation, Parasailing and Zip lining with grandchildren. For my 80th birthday, my plan was to jump out of an airplane (connected to someone, of course) but my plan was interrupted and I couldn’t follow through.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: One of the most influential people in my life was my GA leader, Martha Zoeller. She was like a second mother to me and other GA girls. We had sleepovers and GA parties in her home. She loved the Lord and her influence made a lasting impression on my Christian life.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: This last year has shown me, because of COVID, how much I missed friends, how wonderful it is to be with others in worship services. It has also shown me how much Urb and I appreciate our wonderful church staff and all they do to keep programs going.

You can follow Martha on Facebook.

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Tori Hurley

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Tori Hurley.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A. Logan and I are looking forward to our third anniversary this May! Our family is still small, but we have a little Cavapoo named Mr. Rochester who’s an expert cuddler. I work at JCTC in the Grants & Contracts department. Normally, my office is downtown, but since last March, I’ve been home with Logan and the pup. It’s gonna be hard to go back to being away from them!

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: I moved to Louisville as soon as Logan proposed in the fall of 2017, and I immediately began attending NAOBC, which I’d visited a few times. I came from a slightly toxic church environment, and joining NAOBC was like a breath of fresh air. I loved the focus on outreach and pressing in to each other. Dr. Cook balanced dedication to Biblical truths and grace for others in a way I hadn’t seen from a pastor. Then Logan and I joined YC7 accidentally. We were trying to visit all young couples’ BFGs, and we’d already visited YC7. They moved to a new room, and we went to that room thinking it was a different BFG. By the time we sat down, we realized it was the same one we’d visited a week before. Since we liked them anyway, we decided we’d pick this one! And how providential that was! We have been so loved by YC7 and so thankful to serve with them. And since our youth minister is in the same BFG, I spoke with him in 2019 about serving in the youth group. Since then, I’ve gotten to meet the best middle school girls in any church. I’m impressed by them every time we do C-Groups together.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: No one can beat me at Tetris.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: Her name is Laura Atkins, and she lives in Belfast, Northern Ireland. We’ve been friends since 2010, and I’ve been blessed to visit her four times. I didn’t see a healthy model of marriage growing up so it’s been helpful to get to know Laura and her husband Scott. She’s the most selfless, serving wife, and takes care of her husband who suffers from autism to a point he’s often home-bound. Yet she doesn’t complain or act put-out. She has nothing but kind things to say about others, and she genuinely loves to listen to others and learn from them. She’s taught me how to boldly be myself, serve my husband, and be fair in the way I talk about others.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: It’s simple, but I’m learning that God loves me. Last summer, I was in a wallow of depression and questioning if God loved me. I was struggling with infertility (still am), fatherlessness, and a recent diagnosis of fibromyalgia. You can have all your theological ducks in a row, but when trials hit you one after another, they won’t stand up straight if you don’t believe God truly loves you down to your heart. I was wrestling with this question. I reached out to a few ladies in my BFG and let them in on where my heart was at. Quickly afterwards, one of them bought me a copy of “Gentle and Lowly” by Dane Ortlund. The book directly addressed my doubts and changed a lot in how I viewed God’s heart towards me. It’s so hard to articulate, especially when it’s something we can get so used to hearing that it becomes white noise. Yet it’s the most essential truth to internalize. We can love because He first loved us, and I think we can love better the more we internalize that.

You can follow Tori on Instagram @torilyndy

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Tracy Monarch

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Tracy Monarch.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: My husband, Jerry, and I are empty nesters. We have two married children and one amazing granddaughter. Our daughter, Rachael and her husband, Alex, and daughter, Maris, live here in Louisville. Hence the reason we started a new chapter five years ago and sold our house of 17 years in Owensboro and moved to Louisville. Our son, Ryan, and his wife, Ally, live in Philadelphia. Ryan met Ally while attending Eastern University of PA and they’ve made their home there close to her family. I’m a bookkeeper at Christian Academy of Louisville. Before our move, I was the Office Manager of our home church. I used to always say that my favorite job title was during my years as a stay-at-home Mom, but these days of being a Gram are pretty rewarding too.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: We’ve been members of NAOBC four years. We love serving the young families of our church by caring for their babies in the nursery. Before the pandemic, I also helped organize the Tuesday night Aerobics class. This past year has been a challenge for all of us – but I’m so thankful for NAOBC and the Sunday services being online and the weekly Devotionables. It has also been a great time to meet different ladies of the church through our NAOBC Women’s Ministry Facebook Group.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: Jerry and I are high school sweethearts. We got married just shy of 19 years old after his enlistment in the Navy. We will celebrate our 35th anniversary this year! I attribute our successful teenage marriage to the Lord always planting us in a supportive church family at every duty station.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: I go to my life verse, “May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O Lord, My Rock and My Redeemer.” Psalm 19:14

You can follow Tracy on Facebook and Instagram @tmjr86

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Kathleen Hanley

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Kathleen Hanley.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: I’m married to Dr. Ryan Hanley. We will celebrate 15 years of marriage this summer. I am a homeschool Mom to “The Fab 5” – Reas is 14, Justin, 13, Ethan, 11, Evelyn, 10, and Benjamin, 8. Thanks to Covid, “Smalls” the bunny and “Gubbles” the goldfish have joined our home.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: We have been at NAOBC for 15 years. We moved here in 2006 for Ryan to start his MDiv at Southern. We had been married one year and had a newborn. We served in Young Couples for 11 years and in the College ministry the last three years. Ryan has taught some discipleship classes, and we’ve led some small groups. And, of course, we serve in the nursery, because that’s where you really learn to serve. Lol, but really.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: I’m from Fort Worth, TX. I’m the eldest of nine kids. I LOVE sunshine, trees, cuddles, fluffy soft blankets, the beach, peanut butter, the smell of a newborn’s head, really hot coffee, the French Shrimp on the Muppets, blasting worship music on the hard days, my husband’s biceps, baking, picking out candles, every shade of blue, and the sound of my kids laughter.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: Over the last 39 years many wonderful women have impacted my life: my Mother, teachers, mentors, authors…but the women of the church have consistently shaped me. Certainly, Jaylynn Cook, but not just the women in leadership. Women who are living out their faith, even if they didn’t know me. I was watching them. I watched how they spoke about their spouse, the way they spoke to their children, how they walked through suffering…now that is something. Watching Martha Sirles and Lettie Buchanan as they lost their children to cancer, watching Jenna Zakari worship Jesus on her deathbed, watching the women of our church serve each other, weep, and rejoice with each other. The wisdom of a thousand books has not shaped me as much as that.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: I have found myself obsessing over the future, “the unknowns.” What job? What house? Where should we be? What’s next? Thinking on these things is somewhat necessary but obsessing makes us anxious and impatient. This past year the Lord has shown me what it means to “Seek His kingdom, first.” I should be obsessing over doing His Revealed Will. I don’t know what will happen next, but I do know: He has called me to be His image-bearer, to proclaim the gospel, to put sin to death, to put on righteousness, to be filled with the Spirit, to worship, to pray without ceasing, to give thanks, to acknowledge Him in all my ways, to love, to serve, to abide. What would my life be like if I were constantly thinking on these things? If Jesus were coming tomorrow, what would I be doing today? I would be building His kingdom and not my own. I would be focused on what’s eternal. I can tell you this shift in my thinking has helped me be more intentional, joyful, and peaceful.

You can follow Kathleen on Facebook and Instagram @pickett_and_smalls.

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Nikki Konzem

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Nikki Konzem.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A. I’m a wife to James and Mom to two beautiful daughters, Emily (10) and Lily (4). I am also a homeschool teacher for Emily and Lily.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: We have been members of NAOBC for about 15 years. We are a part of the IC3 BFG, which has been a tremendous blessing to us. I served in the nursery for several years when we first joined NAOBC. We helped with Rosalynn’s Hope (Adoption Ministry) when it was active in our church. The past seven years or so my husband and I have served in the 3-year-old BFG, which has been a lot of fun.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: I love to do paper crafts and dance fitness classes!

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: Many Christian women have made an impact in my life! Lately I’ve been reminded how much I’ve missed the women in our BFG (IC3) after not seeing many of them in person due to Covid-19. So many of them are precious friends; some I’ve known for many years. They are a great encouragement to me and I’m thankful to the Lord for them!

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: The Lord has reminded me through this last difficult year to remember and trust His promises. Sometimes I’m tempted to doubt. But He is a loving and faithful Father who is working all things for good in His struggling children. He’s also reminded me how precious His bride is – NAOBC has been such an encouragement and a rock for us through Covid-19. When the world has been so crazy and unstable, Christ and His church are secure.

You can follow Nikki on Facebook.

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Ashley Rush

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Ashley Rush.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: I’m from the Nashville, TN, area. I have an older brother that just graduated college. I’m engaged to the most servant-hearted man I know, Jonathan Akesson. I’m a Junior in the Youth and Family Ministry Program at Boyce College and absolutely love every minute of it. I work at a couple of different jobs on campus – I clean the campus areas with the custodial department in the early mornings and work in the Dining Services Department throughout the rest of the day.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: I’ve been at NAOBC for the last almost three years. I’m in the College BFG and I serve in the nursery with my fiancé. NAOBC has been the most encouraging and challenging place for me spiritually during some difficult seasons. In the last three years, I have never seen such a church that loves so well. Even on my breaks from school, I’ve been able to stay connected to the church and when I come back each semester it’s like I’ve never left.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: Most people know I love office supplies but what most people don’t know is that I LOVE seeing evidence of hard work on my hands. If my hands are cracked or a little rougher than normal it gives me so much joy knowing I’m working as unto the Lord.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: So it’s super hard for me to pick just one so I’d say definitely my Mom just because she’s an example of serving and loving the Lord always and has been a person for me that has never been afraid to speak the truth in love to me. She has also been a great example of what a godly wife and mother looks like. Another person that has been so influential in my life has been Kathleen Hanley. She has been a constant source of wisdom and encouragement and prayer during my time in Louisville. She has intentionally walked with me through so many seasons in the last few years and Ryan and her have been godly mentors for my fiancé and me. She also is a great example for me of what a godly wife and mother looks like too.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: In the last year, the Lord has constantly brought Romans 8:28 into my life to the point where I laugh ever time I hear it. There have been so many shifts in my life in the last year (more than I can count honestly) and I’m a person that loves consistency and control and the Lord has really had to break me of a lot of that. It’s been sweet this season to be more reminded that the Lord already knows what is going on in my life and He’s not blind to what I feel in the moment. Things can be frustrating or tiresome but I can trust that the lord cares for me and already knows what I need before I do (Matthew 6:32). It may not be what I want but He’s using all things for His glory and for my good. It doesn’t feel good at times but I’ve learned this last year through some hard times that ultimately the Lord is not going to allow His people to miss out on what He has for them. If whatever I desire is something the Lord has planned for me then He’ll make that happen and if I feel I “miss out” or don’t get what I want, the only thing I’m missing is the blessings He has already given me.

You can follow Ashley on Facebook and Instagram @gnomierush,

Meet the Women of NAOBC – Haley Witt

On Mondays, we’ll take time to meet the women of NAOBC. Five questions followed by how you can connect with the NAOBC women on social media. Today’s interview is with Haley Witt.

Q: Tell us about yourself

A: My husband, Ben, and I have been married for two and a half years. We met through the Singles BFG and knew on our first date that each other was “the one.” I am a stay-at-home Mama to our two kiddos, Ezekiel (Zeke) and Ellianna (Ellie). I’m living my childhood dream of being a Mama and Wife. I love photography and crafts and for a while I had a small photography business and I still run a crafting business called Created Witt Love. Ben and I run it together since we do wooden pieces as well.

Q: Tell us about your time at NAOBC

A: I’ve been a member of NAOBC for 15 years. My family lived in Louisville for five years and then moved away, but I moved back for school two years afterwards and just never moved my membership to a church where my family was living. We are currently in the YC7 BFG. Before 2020, I served in the nursery and did some AWANA before that.

Q: What is a fun fact that most people wouldn’t know about you?

A: I was an Army daughter, sister, and wife all at once for one month before my Dad and Husband got out. I’ve also lived in four states and two countries.

Q: What woman has made the most impact in your life?

A: Probably my Mom. She has honestly been the person who has influenced me the most and has made me who I am today. I find myself repeating so much of what she engrained in my head growing up. It’s true what they say “I opened my mouth and my Mom came out.” She’s so full of wisdom and has always pushed me to Christ when things go wrong or when I just need encouragement.

Q: What is something the Lord has taught you in the last year?

A: Oh goodness! Our plans are not always the Lord’s plans. We had all these plans for 2020 – trips, growing our businesses and with the way it all happened, He was basically saying “nope not this year.” I’m sure a lot of people can relate, but 2020 was just a fully unexpected year for us from me quitting photography to us adding another kiddo.

You can follow Haley on Facebook and Instagram @mrshaleywitt_18